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jcreamy420
07-20-2009, 01:00 AM
yo FMB i know you have to be admitted/referred to Bit Freak i was hoping someone on this site could hook me up with that??

i've been into glass for a bit i can't wait to see the Lurch / Salt things bit freak has :)

gbk.xscape
07-20-2009, 01:10 AM
You do? I was looking there not too long ago. When did this change?

J_hart88
07-20-2009, 01:30 AM
just email [email protected] with your age name n state u live in and say you on fullmelt etc. you shoudl get a response

flabarm
07-20-2009, 01:49 AM
Yeah I just emailed him a scan of my ID and my name on TC.

bubblecrack
07-20-2009, 06:41 AM
this thread is going to get shutdown. the mods here aren't bfg friendly

jcreamy420
07-20-2009, 07:38 AM
my bad close it up or whatever FMB i got what I wanted.

philly4life
07-20-2009, 01:28 PM
the dont really censor here...even if they should sometimes...
anyway, contact bit and maybe he will help you after he gets around to it

Bongwater420
07-21-2009, 06:43 PM
why the fuk would u send him a picture of ur fucking id thats was fuking really stupid

fullmeltbubble
07-21-2009, 09:43 PM
ok so now everyone knows how to get onto another site....i'm gonna close this thread....

iCapture
07-23-2009, 03:08 AM
ok so now everyone knows how to get onto another site....i'm gonna close this thread....

whats the problem with being able to get onto another site???

I'm confused.

DCALLSTARR
07-23-2009, 04:05 AM
sites like these are competitors..

why dont people understand that and just respect the way it is.

its simply a matter of respect for bubbleman and the rest of the good folks who make this site happen. why question their judgment?

anyone that disagrees, do you have the time/funds/equipment/ability to run your own FMB-like site?
didnt think so. so will everyone please respect the admin's wishes?

jBUCKS420
07-23-2009, 01:05 PM
what are they competing for though? Not trying to be a smart ass, but fmb is a hash site, bfg is a glass site. thats two different things.

jBUCKS420
07-23-2009, 01:15 PM
Why does everyone from fmb hate bfg, and everyone from tc hate everyone everywhere? Im sure the members of all of these sites frequent ALL of these sites and are essentially the same people. I mean, we ALL smoke weed, so why is everyone who is involved in the online weed smoking community filled with so much HATRED for eachother? Why can't we HELP eachother if there is no reason for the hate, like referring eachother to other websites that may help us further our knowledge of weed, hash, glass; anything related? I personally do not understand the animosity that Mods have for Mods of other websites. Unless bitfreak punched bubbleman in the stomach at a party of something... I dunno... just tryin to make sense of senselessness. I see absolutely no "competition" between BFG and FMB, because FMB is not for profit. right?

EDIT : The first and last time I got a tokecity account, I got on there and asked "has anyone here heard of SoulShineFamilyGlass? are they any good?" and I was banned immediately. I have no idea why, but that was the entirety of my thread. That was the first example of the animosity I experience between weed smokers on the web, but it wasn't the last. Please don't ban me, I love and respect FMB, I'm just trying to point out the words of a guy with a jerry curl: "Can't we all just get along?"

con-ed
07-23-2009, 02:42 PM
Why does everyone from fmb hate bfg, and everyone from tc hate everyone everywhere? Im sure the members of all of these sites frequent ALL of these sites and are essentially the same people. I mean, we ALL smoke weed, so why is everyone who is involved in the online weed smoking community filled with so much HATRED for eachother? Why can't we HELP eachother if there is no reason for the hate, like referring eachother to other websites that may help us further our knowledge of weed, hash, glass; anything related? I personally do not understand the animosity that Mods have for Mods of other websites. Unless bitfreak punched bubbleman in the stomach at a party of something... I dunno... just tryin to make sense of senselessness. I see absolutely no "competition" between BFG and FMB, because FMB is not for profit. right?

EDIT : The first and last time I got a tokecity account, I got on there and asked "has anyone here heard of SoulShineFamilyGlass? are they any good?" and I was banned immediately. I have no idea why, but that was the entirety of my thread. That was the first example of the animosity I experience between weed smokers on the web, but it wasn't the last. Please don't ban me, I love and respect FMB, I'm just trying to point out the words of a guy with a jerry curl: "Can't we all just get along?"



word.
I'm sorry I find it comical how mods of various sites behave. FMB has been an amazing find for me :brainiac: and I hope it grows endlessly. BFG did what he believed was a necessary step to continue business.....so who cares! more power to him, he's the one running a website and contributing his piece to the glass community. I do know there has been some shit that happened in the past w/TC and former mods but seriously jBucks said it. We all smoke, look at how many people post milk shots on a daily basis.....I mean c'mon now. There is most definitely drama/issues behind the scenes with artists/vendors etc. that we don't know about....but the hostility I see on sites sometimes is retarted for sites based on cannabis products and the use of them. (and no the hostility I speak of isn't related to mainting the security of sites)

....anyways whatever! ...smoke one:pipe:

bubblecrack
07-23-2009, 09:00 PM
Why does everyone from fmb hate bfg, and everyone from tc hate everyone everywhere? Im sure the members of all of these sites frequent ALL of these sites and are essentially the same people. I mean, we ALL smoke weed, so why is everyone who is involved in the online weed smoking community filled with so much HATRED for eachother? Why can't we HELP eachother if there is no reason for the hate, like referring eachother to other websites that may help us further our knowledge of weed, hash, glass; anything related? I personally do not understand the animosity that Mods have for Mods of other websites. Unless bitfreak punched bubbleman in the stomach at a party of something... I dunno... just tryin to make sense of senselessness. I see absolutely no "competition" between BFG and FMB, because FMB is not for profit. right?

EDIT : The first and last time I got a tokecity account, I got on there and asked "has anyone here heard of SoulShineFamilyGlass? are they any good?" and I was banned immediately. I have no idea why, but that was the entirety of my thread. That was the first example of the animosity I experience between weed smokers on the web, but it wasn't the last. Please don't ban me, I love and respect FMB, I'm just trying to point out the words of a guy with a jerry curl: "Can't we all just get along?"

lol u think just because its a bunch of stoners everyone is going to get along and not be competitive? fullmeltglass was recently launched so i doubt they are going to be very happy about people posting about how to access other places to buy glass.
another reason is that this is suppose to be a place to show off your glass not a place to talk about where to buy functional glass. there isn't really a section to talk about other vendors that arent fullmeltglass.

philly4life
07-23-2009, 09:12 PM
fullmeltglass was recently launched so i doubt they are going to be very happy about people posting about how to access other places to buy glass.
.

since when???? its not working for me.

fullmeltbubble
07-23-2009, 09:48 PM
if you notice on our site, we don't mind anyone posting other companies bags or what not....I don't have any hate for any other website....if we were really anal about it...this thread woulda been deleted....I'm of the belief that the internet is big enough for everyone....

oldmanmozz
07-23-2009, 10:22 PM
if you notice on our site, we don't mind anyone posting other companies bags or what not....I don't have any hate for any other website....if we were really anal about it...this thread woulda been deleted....I'm of the belief that the internet is big enough for everyone....

ive been staying outta threads like this, (much respect FMB)
but that is so true ^^^,

cheers n beers Mozz

jBUCKS420
07-23-2009, 10:59 PM
ive really never been able to purchase anything on fullmeltglass. and ive tried. but thats beside the point that FMG is not FMB. So what bubblecrack is irrelevant. and FullMeltBubble proved that. Thanks for your open, unegotistical nature Mr. FMB we appreciate it.

sm0ke
07-25-2009, 06:12 PM
if you notice on our site, we don't mind anyone posting other companies bags or what not....I don't have any hate for any other website....if we were really anal about it...this thread woulda been deleted....I'm of the belief that the internet is big enough for everyone....

FMB rocks!

who-dat
08-08-2009, 05:41 PM
thanks fullmelt...for being a bigger person, and for FMB/FMG!

(sure, I'm on another forum site, do I feel the need to advertise it? fuck no!...would I PM u w/info pertaining to your ? if it involved another site? fuck yeah!)

Bubbleman
08-08-2009, 06:25 PM
I have zero problem with any other sites.... i started fullmeltglass for the love of glass.. not for the hate of glass sellers...
I think to all those that want to start a forum or herbsite or glass site or what ever ... Do it right and fuel it with your passion and you can't go wrong.
As for this site.. as it grows.. more and more people will grow to love it and hate it... thats called life..
deal with it gentlemen... either way do it with a nice bowl of melt and it will all be much more enjoyable..

peace
Bubble man

419gotaminute
08-08-2009, 06:39 PM
Right on Bubbleman much respect bro.I LOVE FMB and that'll never change no matter how many other sites there are.I am sure that FMG is going to be just as good if not better cant wait!

amtbps
08-09-2009, 04:00 AM
Wonderful site, great people but...

I've become kind of weary about how much the sale section has blown up lately. It has definitely gained popularity, which can only bring problems. Let the PM's begin...

Emohohkaywhy
08-18-2009, 05:58 PM
Wonderful site, great people but...

I've become kind of weary about how much the sale section has blown up lately. It has definitely gained popularity, which can only bring problems. Let the PM's begin...

What?

Why would the popularity be a problem?

I think for the most part the glass section has been great for most people using it.

jcreamy420
08-18-2009, 11:53 PM
What?

Why would the popularity be a problem?

I think for the most part the glass section has been great for most people using it.

i live in LA, and around the valley is definitely the best spot for glass. everything you can imagine except for some special .de roors (the Howard Marks ones, etc.) can be found here for prices that are gouged out of control.

the sales section on this site has become an invisible hand in the economic market of glass and really set prices back to normal. i think its growing popularity is a plus

Chickenhead7
08-19-2009, 06:01 AM
i live in LA, and around the valley is definitely the best spot for glass. everything you can imagine except for some special .de roors (the Howard Marks ones, etc.) can be found here for prices that are gouged out of control.

the sales section on this site has become an invisible hand in the economic market of glass and really set prices back to normal. i think its growing popularity is a plus

It works both ways....

Some people here think like you, with the idea that they are bringing down prices all around and making piece shops become far more fair with their pricing because they are having to compete, overall making it easier for the modest glass owner to get something nice.

Others though, see that there are people here looking for very rare glass and on top of this that they have loads of money to fork over for it. With this in mind people have been coming here with their "ultra rare tubes" and try to sell them for WAY more than they would get on the street because they are able to showcase their "rare piece" to people that are specifically looking for rare pieces.

Simple economics....when demand is high and supply is low, cost of the product goes through the roof. When people show up here with a tube that no one else has, and they know everyone around here is looking for it, they mark the price up to flat out ridiculous levels.

People who are seriously looking for rare tubes know that they are pricey, and when they already have the idea that they are going to pay a lot to get what they want, by the time it comes around or they have found what they are looking for, they end up willing to pay ridiculous prices because they feel it is their one and only chance to get their "dream piece".

I don't give a fuck what anyone says about SG, there is no way that a straight tube gridline (even with a matching a/c and bowl) should be selling for anywhere near $1250.....I mean WS was selling gridline/8 arms for under $600 so if they came up on a straight gridline it should never be more than that (possibly a little bit more because of the rarity but not even close to over a %100 mark up).

More and more people are coming to this site that have money coming out of their ass and when any person selling their rare tube sees that, they will automatically try to sell their peice for way more than they know they should because they have the possibility that someone with a grip of money is going to pick it up because they can't find it anywhere else.

I mean for people who live out of the country, then paying a lot for a SG or Toro or wtvr is understable because there actually is no way your probably going to find it around where you live and if you do its just going to be the same price cause god knows how it got there in the first place.

When I see somone buying a piece for $1250 though, when I have seen something nicer than it for under $600...I just can't help but feel bad.

Its understanable if you have a nice piece and want to make some money off of it, but when you mark a $600 piece up by more than %100 all your doing is screwing everyone over except yourself.

Bless the people who come here wanting to offer people nice glass for reasonable prices and realize the glass market is a fucking joke and that most of the pieces you see are selling for %100 to %200 more than they are worth.

For those people that come here trying to make crazy amounts of money...well all I can say is get the fuck out of here. Go open a piece shop and mark your shit up to ridiculous prices and see how many people come in and buy your shit.

The problem is that only %10 of us are willing to pay thousands of dollars for a piece we want...and basically when a person comes in here selling their pieces for so much as to only attract that %10 of "high spenders", well then the other %90 of possible buyers is shit out of luck and can't even consider getting anything.

Typical capitalism bullshit, and yes I know that most of what I said is "just business" but its the whole reason the business world is so fucked up. Its all about making money, not about retaining credibility, a good customer basis, or value of the company and product they are selling.

Ok...well I think I typed enough, Im done.

DCALLSTARR
08-19-2009, 07:13 PM
wow, thank you good sir.. did you by any chance write the wealth of nations too? because THAT could have been an excerpt haha

Chickenhead7
08-19-2009, 07:41 PM
wow, thank you good sir.. did you by any chance write the wealth of nations too? because THAT could have been an excerpt haha

Haha I wasn't around in the 1700's so I don't think so, but thanks man. :) I just really don't like how business works now a days, which is part of the reason why I went on a typing frenzy last night and wrote that up. Thanks for the input.

slippeh
08-19-2009, 07:47 PM
Just thought I'd say I don't see BF and FMB being competition. A lot of the goods sold on here are re-sales that were originally bought through BFG. Also, FMB tends to be cheaper than BFG because it is a re-sale.

hyhyz
09-06-2009, 09:35 PM
It works both ways....

Some people here think like you, with the idea that they are bringing down prices all around and making piece shops become far more fair with their pricing because they are having to compete, overall making it easier for the modest glass owner to get something nice.

Others though, see that there are people here looking for very rare glass and on top of this that they have loads of money to fork over for it. With this in mind people have been coming here with their "ultra rare tubes" and try to sell them for WAY more than they would get on the street because they are able to showcase their "rare piece" to people that are specifically looking for rare pieces.

Simple economics....when demand is high and supply is low, cost of the product goes through the roof. When people show up here with a tube that no one else has, and they know everyone around here is looking for it, they mark the price up to flat out ridiculous levels.

People who are seriously looking for rare tubes know that they are pricey, and when they already have the idea that they are going to pay a lot to get what they want, by the time it comes around or they have found what they are looking for, they end up willing to pay ridiculous prices because they feel it is their one and only chance to get their "dream piece".

I don't give a fuck what anyone says about SG, there is no way that a straight tube gridline (even with a matching a/c and bowl) should be selling for anywhere near $1250.....I mean WS was selling gridline/8 arms for under $600 so if they came up on a straight gridline it should never be more than that (possibly a little bit more because of the rarity but not even close to over a %100 mark up).

More and more people are coming to this site that have money coming out of their ass and when any person selling their rare tube sees that, they will automatically try to sell their peice for way more than they know they should because they have the possibility that someone with a grip of money is going to pick it up because they can't find it anywhere else.

I mean for people who live out of the country, then paying a lot for a SG or Toro or wtvr is understable because there actually is no way your probably going to find it around where you live and if you do its just going to be the same price cause god knows how it got there in the first place.

When I see somone buying a piece for $1250 though, when I have seen something nicer than it for under $600...I just can't help but feel bad.

Its understanable if you have a nice piece and want to make some money off of it, but when you mark a $600 piece up by more than %100 all your doing is screwing everyone over except yourself.

Bless the people who come here wanting to offer people nice glass for reasonable prices and realize the glass market is a fucking joke and that most of the pieces you see are selling for %100 to %200 more than they are worth.

For those people that come here trying to make crazy amounts of money...well all I can say is get the fuck out of here. Go open a piece shop and mark your shit up to ridiculous prices and see how many people come in and buy your shit.

The problem is that only %10 of us are willing to pay thousands of dollars for a piece we want...and basically when a person comes in here selling their pieces for so much as to only attract that %10 of "high spenders", well then the other %90 of possible buyers is shit out of luck and can't even consider getting anything.

Typical capitalism bullshit, and yes I know that most of what I said is "just business" but its the whole reason the business world is so fucked up. Its all about making money, not about retaining credibility, a good customer basis, or value of the company and product they are selling.

Ok...well I think I typed enough, Im done.

i just read this and honestly this should be posted in b/s/t section of EVERYwebsite seriously if you're flipping glass FINE but charge a "middle-man's" fee not a ridiculous LOL im going to rape u charge, and if you're going to FLIP GLASS DON'T DO IT SO OBVIOUSLY won't call any1 out, but posting pictures of LB's stock, or HG, or any STORE'S inventory that is open to the public when ur not the store owner and tyring to flip it... IS RETARDED PEOPLE LOOK AT YOU AS A SHADY PERSON AND WILL NOT DEAL W/YOU

themasochist
09-06-2009, 11:14 PM
It works both ways....

Some people here think like you, with the idea that they are bringing down prices all around and making piece shops become far more fair with their pricing because they are having to compete, overall making it easier for the modest glass owner to get something nice.

Others though, see that there are people here looking for very rare glass and on top of this that they have loads of money to fork over for it. With this in mind people have been coming here with their "ultra rare tubes" and try to sell them for WAY more than they would get on the street because they are able to showcase their "rare piece" to people that are specifically looking for rare pieces.

Simple economics....when demand is high and supply is low, cost of the product goes through the roof. When people show up here with a tube that no one else has, and they know everyone around here is looking for it, they mark the price up to flat out ridiculous levels.

People who are seriously looking for rare tubes know that they are pricey, and when they already have the idea that they are going to pay a lot to get what they want, by the time it comes around or they have found what they are looking for, they end up willing to pay ridiculous prices because they feel it is their one and only chance to get their "dream piece".

I don't give a fuck what anyone says about SG, there is no way that a straight tube gridline (even with a matching a/c and bowl) should be selling for anywhere near $1250.....I mean WS was selling gridline/8 arms for under $600 so if they came up on a straight gridline it should never be more than that (possibly a little bit more because of the rarity but not even close to over a %100 mark up).

More and more people are coming to this site that have money coming out of their ass and when any person selling their rare tube sees that, they will automatically try to sell their peice for way more than they know they should because they have the possibility that someone with a grip of money is going to pick it up because they can't find it anywhere else.

I mean for people who live out of the country, then paying a lot for a SG or Toro or wtvr is understable because there actually is no way your probably going to find it around where you live and if you do its just going to be the same price cause god knows how it got there in the first place.

When I see somone buying a piece for $1250 though, when I have seen something nicer than it for under $600...I just can't help but feel bad.

Its understanable if you have a nice piece and want to make some money off of it, but when you mark a $600 piece up by more than %100 all your doing is screwing everyone over except yourself.

Bless the people who come here wanting to offer people nice glass for reasonable prices and realize the glass market is a fucking joke and that most of the pieces you see are selling for %100 to %200 more than they are worth.

For those people that come here trying to make crazy amounts of money...well all I can say is get the fuck out of here. Go open a piece shop and mark your shit up to ridiculous prices and see how many people come in and buy your shit.

The problem is that only %10 of us are willing to pay thousands of dollars for a piece we want...and basically when a person comes in here selling their pieces for so much as to only attract that %10 of "high spenders", well then the other %90 of possible buyers is shit out of luck and can't even consider getting anything.

Typical capitalism bullshit, and yes I know that most of what I said is "just business" but its the whole reason the business world is so fucked up. Its all about making money, not about retaining credibility, a good customer basis, or value of the company and product they are selling.

Ok...well I think I typed enough, Im done.
Truth......

treken
09-07-2009, 10:02 AM
I have zero problem with any other sites.... i started fullmeltglass for the love of glass.. not for the hate of glass sellers...
I think to all those that want to start a forum or herbsite or glass site or what ever ... Do it right and fuel it with your passion and you can't go wrong.
As for this site.. as it grows.. more and more people will grow to love it and hate it... thats called life..
deal with it gentlemen... either way do it with a nice bowl of melt and it will all be much more enjoyable..

peace
Bubble man
Hell Yeah Bman!
( "Amen!" was not long enough)

fallen4ngel
09-13-2009, 05:19 AM
i just read this and honestly this should be posted in b/s/t section of EVERYwebsite seriously if you're flipping glass FINE but charge a "middle-man's" fee not a ridiculous LOL im going to rape u charge, and if you're going to FLIP GLASS DON'T DO IT SO OBVIOUSLY won't call any1 out, but posting pictures of LB's stock, or HG, or any STORE'S inventory that is open to the public when ur not the store owner and tyring to flip it... IS RETARDED PEOPLE LOOK AT YOU AS A SHADY PERSON AND WILL NOT DEAL W/YOU

yanno... i disagree with your thoughts about posting store stock online. alot of ppl can't get quality glass in BFE and wouldnt have any other choice but to look on the net and get scammed by some janky site. thats why im glad that Bman lets us sell glass on here wether it is new or used this is a rare find on the net. hopefully ill be as cool as some of you on this site(u know who you are) and be enlightened.... but for now i am here :)