Gimme your opinions/thoughts

[johnnyballbag]

Doing a little research here, and only you guys can help me. I'm working on some slide stands, using gong fittings. What i'm wondering is, what percentage of your collection is 14m or 18m? I know a lot of cats say they try to only use 18's, but that's not always the case nor is it always feasible.

What i'm thinking i could do is, use only 18m fittings and provide adapters for those who need/want them. How would you guys like that? Or would you rather have 14m fittings for your 14's? Making them on a custom basis per order won't be an issue. I'd just like to hear your thoughts to see how i should order the fittings.

Oh and btw...i spoke to UST. Will be using their Uber fittings, after i use up the few i've got on hand. Any response is appreciated!

[gimpymoses]

You need to make these pronto so I can get my hands on one! My personal opinion would be 18's! but you def. need to make some 14's for other collectors. I think everything you said in your thread is a good idea and I would go ahead forth with it! Good Luck.

[OnSilverWings]

yeah i would definitely take one. one question though, are you going to sort of "recess" the joints into the wood or whatever material it is? or are they going to be sticking out a lot? like i said i would def want one but i wouldnt really want the fittings to be sticking out a lot. and i have all 18s, so i would want one with all 18s, and then maybe get a couple bushing adaptors, that way if i do ever decide to get a 14, ill have a spot for it, AND already have the bushing adapter to use on my tube! good idea johnny!

[johnnyballbag]

I might try and recess them, but it just depends how clean i can do it, being that they've got a weird shape to them. The adapter idea with all 18m joints was just a way for me to try and make the stands "grow" with you, as your collection changes. But of course totally custom is an option. I'll throw up some links of the kinds of wood i'll be using if anyone is interested.

[vodkamartiny12]

hey cant help but over hear your dilemma over here bro, my suggestion is universal fittings that fit into the wood that can be flipped for 14 or 18 if not that some sort of adjustable resistance mechanism so that there is no definite size, so you have a shop you said to do all this?

Vm

[johnnyballbag]

Good idea, but i wanna use standard gong ground joints. I can make whatever anyone wants, but that'll mean that most of them will have to be on a custom basis, which is fine. But i kinda wanted to make a few, but also don't wanna make something that no one could use.

[thefurnace]

Hello FMB,
I think that your idea for the adapters is very resourceful, that being said you should probably make a couple full 14 slide holders as well. I have 5 14s and 2 18s so at least for me I would need at least 1 slide holder all 14.
THanks Furnace

[OnlyHighGrade]

great idea johnny! i was trolling the shelves at lowes yesterday trying to find prefect fitments for a stand i was trying to conjure up. My mission failed and I really couldn't find anything decent. I like your idea much better! I agree with on silver wings. Personally I would want 1 with all 18.8 joints. I think the adapter for the the 14s is genius cause then I could still rock my 14's in my 18.8 tubes and such.

How much are these gonna run? estimate? I would love 1 that held about 10 18.8. decent spacing nothing to crazy.

[johnnyballbag]

As of right now, i'm trying to use at least AAA grade veneer. The first few will be mostly walnut burl, with some bird's eye maple for contrast. Def gonna be more than like the roor stands, but obvioulsy a lot nicer as well. I'm hoping to keep them at around $20 per slot, across the board.

[YukonBikerGuy]

The simplest solution would seem to be offering two sizes of bowl blocks.... all 14, and all 18..... otherwise its custom combo headache land... imo.

[DaNK]

Pictures??

[vodkamartiny12]

http://www.sciencelab.com/page/S/PVAR/10607/10-2204 hey check this idea out it looks pretty decent maybe it will give you some ideas eh.

[johnnyballbag]

Well.... i mean thanks, but i'm using real wood, and glass. No plastic. All hand made, hand sanded, finished, sealed, etc... Talk to a luthier, and ask them how they get their finish. That being said, here's examples of the two woods i'm gonna be using for now.

The walnut burl: http://www.veneersupplies.com/product_info.php?products_id=7731

The birds eye maple: http://www.veneersupplies.com/product_info.php?products_id=7283

[colitas]

I love the wood veneers Jbbag, reminds me of some HI-FI eqipment I have seen. Imagine a whole record player made with that or some speakers they do and they look great... keep it up ...

[johnnyballbag]

I love the wood veneers Jbbag, reminds me of some HI-FI eqipment I have seen. Imagine a whole record player made with that or some speakers they do and they look great... keep it up ...

Thanks man, that's actually how i learned woodworking, with my dad. Made all kinds of speakers, and made some guitars as well. It's a lot of work, but just like any nice guitar, it'll have that smooth, glass like finish to it.

[phx36]

JBB, I got 8 18mm's and 1 14mm. Just incase.

[OnlyHighGrade]

i think YBG post is the most realistic and practical, especially for you johnny who has to make them. Just make them to hold like 10 or so and have them in 14.5 and 18.8. We're all gonna buy more pushes in the future right? So what if you only have 6 slides. now you have a reason to buy 4 more. just my opinion.

[johnnyballbag]

Maybe i'll make them in groups of 5. I just countersunk some of them, and they do look better that way, so far so good. Thanks for all the input ppl.

[OnSilverWings]

toss some pics up!

[colitas]

aww shit Johnny love to hear that you already know of what quality I speak..what about those fun size slides sculpted slides and slingtinis and all I can't see you gettin' away from all custom orders..

[johnnyballbag]

I don't have a problem making some customs... ;)

[johnnyballbag]

Here's a lil update, this is hearmeroor's stand. It's not finished, still a little ways to go...but you kinda get the idea.

http://www.fullmeltbubble.com/gallery/files/1/1/8/2/slidestand004.JPG

http://www.fullmeltbubble.com/gallery/files/1/1/8/2/slidestand005.JPG

http://www.fullmeltbubble.com/gallery/files/1/1/8/2/slidestand006.JPG

http://www.fullmeltbubble.com/gallery/files/1/1/8/2/slidestand007.JPG

[Freebird17]

Looking great, glad to see the update

[johnnyballbag]

Oh yeah, forgot to mention..that's birds eye maple.

[theookiekabuki]

youve made guitars huh, any chance of making a custom fretless 5string bass?

[johnnyballbag]

I've more helped make them lol...but hit me in a PM and i can get you to the guy that can if you're serious.

[theookiekabuki]

hell yeah im seriouse itll be a minute till id get the funds for as nice a bass i want, but yeah ill take this to pm brotha.thanks

[themasochist]

NIce Bird's eye reminds me of my buddy's Les Paul

[johnnyballbag]

NIce Bird's eye reminds me of my buddy's Les Paul

Thanks bro. It's AAA grade wood. Love how it looks. I'll get some more pics up tomorrow with the stain and hand rubbed oil finish, it really brings out the depth and figure.

[colitas]

bird's eye maple look nice, clean finish just like you said too! the spacing looks big enough for a Zach P punished head, what about a Slingtini?

[johnnyballbag]

I was gonna go with 3" spacing for a "standard" but HMR thought that might be a lil too big. So this one is spaced apart 2 1/2". I'm sure anything would fit IMO.

[kenula420]

aw man this looks like some quality wooden bowl stands how much is a custom one going to cost? probably like 5x14mm and 5x18mm?

[johnnyballbag]

I'm charging $20 per slot, so that would be $200. PM me if you're interested.

[Glassaholic]

These look great, any chance of a discount maybe for something to hold 60 slides?

[johnnyballbag]

For sure man, i've been wanting to make something larger. Get at me and we'll talk.

[Bongwater420]

or switch it up do it like this

18.14.18.14.18.14
^^^^^^^^^^^
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

or just stick with all 18 and all 14 but personally i think ur best bet would be to make 14 only then 18 only then a mix of 14.18

[johnnyballbag]

Thanks for your input bongwater420. I agree with ya, seems as far as production pieces go, i should make them all the same size. There's always the custom route if something else is needed.

[johnnyballbag]

Some pics of the redwood burl and the walnut burl. These are gonna be single slide stands. These still have a few more hand rubbed coats of oil, then the finish and then the fittings will be mounted.

http://www.fullmeltbubble.com/gallery/files/1/1/8/2/samples011.JPG
http://www.fullmeltbubble.com/gallery/files/1/1/8/2/samples003.JPG
http://www.fullmeltbubble.com/gallery/files/1/1/8/2/samples015.JPG
http://www.fullmeltbubble.com/gallery/files/1/1/8/2/samples029.JPG

[minitrkn420]

i love that shit man. looks so narly :)

-mini