first green run?

[Mr Bubble]

Hello, just wondering why first run has greenish tint? Have 8 bag in a 5 gal bucket....bubble machine....did a 10 min run on fresh frozen trim off great bud. didnt get any in the 90 or 70 bags????? but lots in 45 and 100 or 120(forgot which). Did another run on dry frozen crumbles and buds and got more amber color but not what I see here....going to keep trying on trim and crumbles until I get it...any advise would be great.

[Kudos]

try 6 minutes, and maybe colder water and sharper ice cubes

[Mr Bubble]

used crushed from the store....whats making it green? how many times do you run each batch, I keep getting a little more on 2nd run? want to try some kick ass bud but want to perfect process first.

[lepstadder]

I have similar problem, running it for less time is generally the key.

It also has to do with the quality of trim being used and size of the trichome heads on the plant material itself

[YukonBikerGuy]

As long as the bags are stacked in the correct order, you are harvesting the trichs (and any veggative material of that size) that were present on the starting material. What you get in your bags is what was there. Various strains develop different numbers of trichs of different sizes.

Generally, green hash means that some plant material is making it through with the hash. Trim from many mechanized trimming machines can be so chewed up that much of the green matter is pulverized so small it will contaminate the hash.

Shorten your mixing time, you can always do a second run with the material to extract anything left. Try a 6 or 3 minute first run. The yield will be lower, but the hash will be much more pure. Then do a longer run the second time if you wish.

Some strains are just not the best for hash. If you read through these forums and think you have the technique down pat, try some different strains.

Good Luck,
YBG

[OnlyHighGrade]

^^^^^^^^^^what he said

[Mr Bubble]

Yukon, thanks...ran about 4 more batches and its getting better. I tried some of last years outdoor and got some good yield, all in the 100 and 45 on a 6 min run . same with a batch of fresh trim covered in trichomes(isnt dry yet). I havent tried any fresh buds yet but have some crystal beauties when I get up the guts.
I did do the first batch with a power trimmer by the way...that could be a consideration on future runs. First batch is sticky & very stoney but no bubble. it was the power trimmed pre 98 bubba x la confidential. Last batch that isnt dry yet is from huge purple erkle spears that look frosted....cant wait to try that one.
Started doing a 6 min then another 8 min , the 6 is more golden and second is darker.
Why do a 190 bag? I still want somthing in the 73 and 90 bag!
Waiting for bubble....

[Green Supreme]

190 is a cleaning bag, without it the grades below become more contaminated. Peace GS

[Mr Bubble]

Green, wouldnt the 160 catch it?

[OnlyHighGrade]

!90 is a cleaning bag, without it the grades below become more contaminated. Peace GS

90 is a cleaning bag? really? I often like the 90 micron the best. I have heard a lot of people say the 90 micron screen is the best because it produces the optimum amount of trichome heads.

[YukonBikerGuy]

Its a typo, he meant the 190µ bag is a cleaning bag. Keeps crap out of the 160µ bag/hash.

Depending on the material, and the mixing time, the 160µ hash may or may not be pleasant to smoke. Sometimes my 120µ is like raw sugar crystals, but without the 160µ above it to catch the less desirable hash, it wouldn't be so nice. When I end up with the uber melty strains going thru the bags, its usually the 90µ that comes out fmcd, but without the bags above to seperate everything, it wouldn't be so. See the reccuring theme? :) More bags = better hash

[OnlyHighGrade]

ahhhhhhhh my mistake YBG. Thanks for the clarification. My 120 is usually awesome as well, while I never keep the 160, but i understand the necessity of the 160 being there.

[Green Supreme]

I find worse case scenario the 160 is great joint hash and best case, great melt. Peace GS

[Mr Bubble]

Thanks for the clarification, I will see what the 160 is like, I was saving it for brownies.
So, I have been trimming purple erkle for about 4-5 days straight....needless to say, the "bubble bud" pile is getting much larger buds in it as the trimming progresses...now I have about 1000g of golf ball and smaller sized buds that are so sticky you cant let go of them.
If I got this shit right, 400g wet weight w/lots o ice 3-5 min, drain , then another 6-8 on the second run. hoping for some great melt on this run.
Question....the calixes are so full of oil they look like the shit is seeded! Will the machine be able to get this out?
I am hoping this works because the purple erkle was the second plant and I have another 18 to go!!!! Figure if I use all the "under buds" I should have a similar amount off each(about 2-3lb wet)....lots of bubble....lots of trouble...cant wait!
Suggestions anyone?

[Mr Bubble]

since everyone seems to be out celebrating national lost day, I will wait until tomorrow to see if anybody has any suggestions prior to starting the machine......btw, some of the 100 seems to be pretty good even if its not fmb...night

[YukonBikerGuy]

Your mix times and plan seem reasonable. Should get some nice hash.

Sometimes extracting the trichs off of the inner surfaces requires breaking up the bud. I have broken it up dry to run, and dried it after the first run, then broke it up and run a second time.

Calyxes dont fill with terpenous resins (or oils), glandular trichome heads do.

Trimming PE for 4-5 days straight, and its a single plant? 2-3 lbs wet 'underbuds' on each? Jumpin jimminy! Gotta be 20 giant outdoor plants..... pics?

[Mr Bubble]

Yukon, yea, they are monsters....the pe had over 6 lbs on each...la x bubba were only 6-7 ft tall but I still got 2-3 each...next is the grapefruit and some orange blossom special(my own strain).
My buddies were giving me crap for growing for quality and not max yield! One of them grows purple passion which yielded 12+ lbs each! 12'x12'x13+ tall, biggest plants I have ever seen. Have not had time to run the pe yet, helped another friend machine trim 2 of his white widow...looks like 4-5 on each of them too.....we could pave 10 miles of I-5 with all the ganja floating around here:p

[endoklino]

12 lbs. a plant
pics plz:pray:

[Mr Bubble]

Hey Guys! I am almost alive again after the ol lady brought home the swine flu...:sick1:....give the gift that keeps on giving! That shit is mean as hell, couldnt take a hit for a week. Still feel like someone parked a truck on my chest.
Most of the "giants" are in but have a few pics of the runts...also of a whole film can of scissor hash from one day of trimming White Widow. Planning on running the first batch of underbuds this week and will try to get some better pics, daughter took the good camera to collage for art project . How do I post pics, clicked manage attachments but nothing????

[WaTdAbLuNt420]

try uploading the pictures to the gallery and copy the bb image code at the bottom and they just load up.

[Mr Bubble]

http://www.fullmeltbubble.com/gallery/files/3/6/1/6/IMGA0008.JPG

[Mr Bubble]

http://www.fullmeltbubble.com/gallery/files/3/6/1/6/IMGA0011.JPG

The stick is 10' tall and the top is 6" in dia....looks tiny in pic

[Mr Bubble]

http://www.fullmeltbubble.com/gallery/files/3/6/1/6/IMGA0014.JPG

this one is about 10' and 3#'s of Orange Blossom Special(heavy duty tooty fruity x grapefruit)....these are the runts!

[Mr Bubble]

http://www.fullmeltbubble.com/gallery/files/3/6/1/6/IMGA0021.JPG

can you say "scissor hash"? This is from one day of the power trimmer blade and of course scissors ....dont have the lungs back yet to try but it smells insane.

Has anybody ever run mud bud through the bubble machine? I have one that got clobbered by the rain and 40+ mph wind so its a bit gritty on the lower branches....

[Green Supreme]

Nice pics man. Thems some monsters for real. Thanks for sharing. Peace GS

[Mr Bubble]

ok, so I have done about 6-7 runs and its very nice shit, not full melt yet or at least no bubble....no ash either though....here is my question, how come I only get weight in the 100 and 45 bag? some in the 120 and 25 but only about 10% of what the 100 gets...no 90 or 75, like none????? is it the weed or something else? also not convinced green runs have an advantage and may not get the yeild of dry runs???? any opinions?

[Green Supreme]

You can only take from what is there. Peace GS

[f0urtwenty]

ok, so I have done about 6-7 runs and its very nice shit, not full melt yet or at least no bubble....no ash either though....here is my question, how come I only get weight in the 100 and 45 bag? some in the 120 and 25 but only about 10% of what the 100 gets...no 90 or 75, like none????? is it the weed or something else? also not convinced green runs have an advantage and may not get the yeild of dry runs???? any opinions?


you'll get a greater yield with dry material, but it'll be more melty when wet, in my experience. you should get at least something in those bags. are you sure you have em in the correct order? my 74u and 90u are usually the biggest yielders for me.

[Green Supreme]

74 and 75 bags, oh oh shoulda bought Bubblebags. Good luck. Peace GS

[f0urtwenty]

upon further inspection it's 73u. i went from recollection.

[Green Supreme]

Phew lol. Peace GS

[Mr Bubble]

I get lots of great shit from 45 and 100 , and yes, they are in the correct order...just seemed weird. I have a bubble machine but payload bags that one of my patients bought me for a gift...I bought the bubble mach to go with them. I dont think its the bags as I have looked at them under mag and they are decreasingly smaller mesh.

[Green Supreme]

Back to post 27. Peace GS

[Mr Bubble]

GS, so what your saying is that some strains have certain size trichomes and thats why I dont get any 90 or 70? So if I try a different strain, say somthing my friend grew, then I might get some 70 or 90 or 120? All I can say is this shit is super killer, taste is beyond, you can tell what plant its from, and if you take a hit, you cant feel anything from hte neck down for an hour or so....guess that means it works, eh?

[Green Supreme]

Not just strains, but grow styles and environments.There are many variables. Peace GS