Clear_Dome
12-01-2010, 05:35 PM
Hi all,
I just thought about doing my own bubble thread so I could keep and share my data with you on how I do my water / ice extraction . I have done a lot of water extraction in the past cause it always been my favorite way extract the thc (the cleanest way of all for sure). I always felt like there was so many factors that could affect the final result so I decided to find the perfect method (for me) to alway achieve the best result that I can get from the starting material . Also note that I'm not a grower so I dont have always acces to top noch perfect starting material like so of you have , most of the time I'm working with what I find around ;) .During the time that I have done water hash I have learn some good tip (many of them are already on the site) like :
-you wont get some super bomb from some weeds grown by an idot who dont know how to grow / stock /dry his weed properly .
-you will get better hash from fresh fluffy deep frozen starting material like popcorn bud / trim / bud hand split in small pieces , big leafs are mostly wast of time .
-you will yeild more by using cured deep frozen material but the quality seem to be lower than using fresh frozen material.
-using bone dry years old leafs & trim unfrozen will almost always result in to dry sandy shitty hash so dont be to much optist when you start with shit you will probably end up with shit.
-keeping the whole mixture always under 4C or 39F is important so dont be cheap on ice . Home made ice seem to last longer and seem less abrasif so I feel like it do a better job than comercial ice . For doing a lot of ice what I did is I bought some 20 ice tray from the dollar store and start doing ice some days befor I know I will run a batch of bubble , you will be suprise of the qqty of ice you can make in only few days .
-being gentle FROM THE BEGINING with your starting material is super important , that mean to almost never touch the plant with bare hand even when you trim ,do not compress the starting material before freezing it , do not blend/paint mix your mixture if you really want the first grade extract ,mix with a wood spoon . Do not press / compact the patty UNTIL IT IS FULLY DRY .when I was starting to do bubble hash most of the times I was ending with some sandy hash so I was not waiting for it to be dry and I was rolling it full of humidy and ending with some moldy hash , there is no magic , if your hash dont stick together than you are doing something wrong or your starting material was to dry .
-curing the fully dry bubble hash during at least 2 week in a air tight glass jar in a dark cold place is a must !
-it is better to do more short mixing runs (under 10 minutes) and adding ice between each run (to keep the water at 4C ) than doing 15-20-30minutes run with only lil ice , if you do a long mixing run without adding ice and screening the water for too long I feel like you will only broke the leafs/trims and mash trichromes what will end to a greeny and less sticky extract .keeping the trichromes in good shape seem to be a key in the prosess .
that was my conclusion till now . but thing will change cause my new bubbler now is on the way :snake: with a brand new kit of 8 bag :beaver: . I dont know much about the bubble now (exept what I found on the net) so I have some question about it . here is what I'm planning to do (please if you have any good thing to say please do :) )
1: put 3 gallon of cold water in the bubble now , put my 220 micron poutch in the bubblenow than fill it with half fresh frozen trims and half of home made ice cubes and close the poutch . ***should I add more ice on top of the bag ?***
2: mix the first run for 3 to 6 minutes , run it through the bags , rince with 1 gallon of water ,add more ice , add 3 more gallon of water and re start the bubble now and other run of 6 minutes .
3:during the times that the bubble now re-mix , I lift my bag , put the bubble on a piece of cardboard and cut it in powder to let it fully dry .
4:repeat until I got no more bubble in my bag or until the shit start to be greenish
is there something else I shoud know about the bubble now ? also can I extract ALL the trichome with the bubble now or I still should keep the plant material and re-mix it with the hand mixer to remove all the good from the plant ? so this way I could have all the full melt from the bubble now and all the rest of the crap from the hand mixer so I could keep it for friends ?
I should post more pix of my next run
Peace
I just thought about doing my own bubble thread so I could keep and share my data with you on how I do my water / ice extraction . I have done a lot of water extraction in the past cause it always been my favorite way extract the thc (the cleanest way of all for sure). I always felt like there was so many factors that could affect the final result so I decided to find the perfect method (for me) to alway achieve the best result that I can get from the starting material . Also note that I'm not a grower so I dont have always acces to top noch perfect starting material like so of you have , most of the time I'm working with what I find around ;) .During the time that I have done water hash I have learn some good tip (many of them are already on the site) like :
-you wont get some super bomb from some weeds grown by an idot who dont know how to grow / stock /dry his weed properly .
-you will get better hash from fresh fluffy deep frozen starting material like popcorn bud / trim / bud hand split in small pieces , big leafs are mostly wast of time .
-you will yeild more by using cured deep frozen material but the quality seem to be lower than using fresh frozen material.
-using bone dry years old leafs & trim unfrozen will almost always result in to dry sandy shitty hash so dont be to much optist when you start with shit you will probably end up with shit.
-keeping the whole mixture always under 4C or 39F is important so dont be cheap on ice . Home made ice seem to last longer and seem less abrasif so I feel like it do a better job than comercial ice . For doing a lot of ice what I did is I bought some 20 ice tray from the dollar store and start doing ice some days befor I know I will run a batch of bubble , you will be suprise of the qqty of ice you can make in only few days .
-being gentle FROM THE BEGINING with your starting material is super important , that mean to almost never touch the plant with bare hand even when you trim ,do not compress the starting material before freezing it , do not blend/paint mix your mixture if you really want the first grade extract ,mix with a wood spoon . Do not press / compact the patty UNTIL IT IS FULLY DRY .when I was starting to do bubble hash most of the times I was ending with some sandy hash so I was not waiting for it to be dry and I was rolling it full of humidy and ending with some moldy hash , there is no magic , if your hash dont stick together than you are doing something wrong or your starting material was to dry .
-curing the fully dry bubble hash during at least 2 week in a air tight glass jar in a dark cold place is a must !
-it is better to do more short mixing runs (under 10 minutes) and adding ice between each run (to keep the water at 4C ) than doing 15-20-30minutes run with only lil ice , if you do a long mixing run without adding ice and screening the water for too long I feel like you will only broke the leafs/trims and mash trichromes what will end to a greeny and less sticky extract .keeping the trichromes in good shape seem to be a key in the prosess .
that was my conclusion till now . but thing will change cause my new bubbler now is on the way :snake: with a brand new kit of 8 bag :beaver: . I dont know much about the bubble now (exept what I found on the net) so I have some question about it . here is what I'm planning to do (please if you have any good thing to say please do :) )
1: put 3 gallon of cold water in the bubble now , put my 220 micron poutch in the bubblenow than fill it with half fresh frozen trims and half of home made ice cubes and close the poutch . ***should I add more ice on top of the bag ?***
2: mix the first run for 3 to 6 minutes , run it through the bags , rince with 1 gallon of water ,add more ice , add 3 more gallon of water and re start the bubble now and other run of 6 minutes .
3:during the times that the bubble now re-mix , I lift my bag , put the bubble on a piece of cardboard and cut it in powder to let it fully dry .
4:repeat until I got no more bubble in my bag or until the shit start to be greenish
is there something else I shoud know about the bubble now ? also can I extract ALL the trichome with the bubble now or I still should keep the plant material and re-mix it with the hand mixer to remove all the good from the plant ? so this way I could have all the full melt from the bubble now and all the rest of the crap from the hand mixer so I could keep it for friends ?
I should post more pix of my next run
Peace