Glass on Glass = Bad?

So I had a long discussion with Tony from Good Stash at my local shop yesterday and I decided to get fmb's opinion on this matter. Rather than recant my conversation I'll just link you to his ranting youtube video's where he lays down all the claims..

YouTube - fusion

In this one he claims that these little plastic balls he makes diffuse better than any cut glass diffuser or percolator system and says he's got $20,000 up on whoever can disprove it.

YouTube - GOODSTASH PART 1 RESPONSE TO GLASS ON...

Part 1 of his rant on the evils of ground glass on glass joints

YouTube - PART 2 OF GOODSTASH RESPONSE TO GLASS...

Part 2


honestly I think they're just too cheap to buy the damned joints. They made a couple comments infront of me about how expensive they were and he also claimed to have a certificate in scientific glass blowing.. which uses ground glass seals. I dunno though.. that glass dust thing is thought provoking.

oh and I forgot to add that the dude was quite a bit of a douchebag.. just wanted to make sure that was thrown in there in case anyone couldn't pick it up from his videos.

Def see the douche factor on that one.
wouldn't the glass dust get caught in the water and never make it to your lungs?

Hahaha, Don't worry i definitly picked up on the douscheness'.. He's mad hostile about his glass mayne.

cpu wont let me watch the vid but i can say this ill take the bet on the diffuser beads for $20,000 vs a VG circ perc. sounds to me like this dude is a sensless douchebag who knows nothing, but again i couldnt watch the videos so my acusation is based on your text.
and yes the dust would just settle in the water and never make it to you lungs

Who the fuck does this guy think he is? Yeah this guy is a total prick. All he sells is grommet? What primitive shit



Someone should test their tube without changing their water. I dunno how you'd test if there's glass dust in the water...

haha you should tell him how to get aholda me ill take his $20,000 like it was nothin

Man this guy is a complete idiot. He probably just made this video because he is too fucking poor to actually buy some good glass, so then he goes and bashes on GonG pieces. This guy is pathetic...

He doesnt adress the seal you get from the dumbass rubber o-ring that supposedly seals the bowl to the downstem.

this man is obscenely ridiculous. he is so dumb to think that "glass dust" could somehow get through the water into your lungs lol. "that extra little tingle"(that he says is glass dust) is what fire bud feels like. obviously this guy is some rookie to be selling rubber grommet pieces and he is repping them as if they were gold. this dude's stupid little grommet shop should get raided.... someone should jack that fools $20k real quick... if he even has the liquid-able assets to make that bet plausible.

Yeah I figured any glass dust traveling down the tube would just stay in the water but we still handle slides and stems plenty so if there is any on the joints then that means its being transferred to everything we touch including face/eyes/nose/mouth.

I tried taking his advice and googling "glass dust lawsuits" but a quick search didn't really turn up anything.

I'm going to go do the tape around the joint experiment and see if I get any glass dust.

Girls love it if there is an even flow rather than a bouncy flow? I must be a girl then.... fuck

NASA doesn't used glass because that wouldn't be practical. Do you know of the extreme climate changes in space? Glass is fragile, you don't but glass as the seals in a ship that cost millions. They use glass joints in labs, which is not a moving vehicle.


If you go on the website http://www.goodstash.com/ and click the "cool products" you will see something shocking. The Pure Ceramic Vaporizer has a glass joint. They managed to put a glass joint on the product that is supposed to be the healthiest. Having the glass joint on a vaporizer is an oxymoron for this company. The glass dust wouldn't even get trapped in water, it would go straight to your lungs.

Hmm that's also funny because their trailer claimed to be sponsored by VaporBros yet they're selling an imitation..

well I just dropped one of my slides in a diffuser stem a good 20 times (as apposed to the 5 the Good Stash guy suggested) and even gave it a few good twists and I still didn't come up with any noticeable glass dust on the tape just fingerprints. Gave both the male and female joints a good swabbing with iso and gave it another go and still no glass dust.

Anyone care to corroborate?

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Originally Posted by Superfluous

Hmm that's also funny because their trailer claimed to be sponsored by VaporBros yet they're selling an imitation..

well I just dropped one of my slides in a diffuser stem a good 20 times (as apposed to the 5 the Good Stash guy suggested) and even gave it a few good twists and I still didn't come up with any noticeable glass dust on the tape just fingerprints. Gave both the male and female joints a good swabbing with iso and gave it another go and still no glass dust.

Anyone care to corroborate?

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Have you been able to try the extraordinary tang test?

im 99% sure toro and SG are not chinese companies, so why are they not being "sued off their asses"

Also in the 1st vid, when he says "20k blah blah" did anyone catch the terms of this? Maybe i heard wong but i think he said a 16 mil joint? He also included that it must be "mass produced, same price, can be produced for the same price, can be lab tested against this."

Well unfortuantly no one is going to make better glass diffusion for under a nickel. Man this guy is fucking retarded. If i wanted good chug i would stick a straw in a pepsi bottle w/ a foil bowl and call it the best diffusing tube ever. I mean after i get those plastic 2 dollar balls im golden right?

my .02

PS. yeah that guy is a douche

PPS. To asure those not seeing sarcasm, I'm keeping my toro over the pepsi bottle...

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Originally Posted by kmartel

im 99% sure toro and SG are not chinese companies, so why are they not being "sued off their asses"

Also in the 1st vid, when he says "20k blah blah" did anyone catch the terms of this? Maybe i heard wong but i think he said a 16 mil joint? He also included that it must be "mass produced, same price, can be produced for the same price, can be lab tested against this."

Well unfortuantly no one is going to make better glass diffusion for under a nickel. Man this guy is fucking retarded. If i wanted good chug i would stick a straw in a pepsi bottle w/ a foil bowl and call it the best diffusing tube ever. I mean after i get those plastic 2 dollar balls im golden right?

my .02

PS. yeah that guy is a douche

PPS. To asure those not seeing sarcasm, I'm keeping my toro over the pepsi bottle...

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Want to trade my Coke bottle for your Toro? Coke bottles had been out performing Pepsi bottles in the past several months. Coke has been on top of their game.

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Want to trade my Coke bottle for your Toro? Coke bottles had been out performing Pepsi bottles in the past several months. Coke has been on top of their game.

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well is it a 1 litre or 2, cause this toro is going for nothing less than a 2!!!

What a douche.
I hate when people try to peddle their grommet smut on the masses like that. Like kartel said, he might be right about the $20,000 thing, he did say the same cost to manufacture and blah blah blah.
He can keep his little plastic balls, I'll stick with my showerhead. SGW FTW

How many chambers does a hookah have? 1, of course you dumbfuck. We're trying to make pot smoke more smoother, we're not trying to smoke tobacco...

we're all gonna get silicosis and die. better sell all your GONG to me (for nothing) and go back to grommet.

Ha, yea...due to this serious hazard, I'll dispose of all your unsafe glass for a small fee.

But seriously, this dude has no logical bearing. Hocus pocus claims.

god damn this dude is just a total retard. to make it even funnier my computer was loading the video slowly and kept freezing his face when he was making super stupid expressions hahaha

such a fucking idiot

He has some points that could be debated and acknowledged, but he tries to talk like a thug using his hand and body movement, and he also mentions breaking peoples pieces twice so he probably thinks he is being hard to a bunch of stoners.

wow. that dude is fucking retarded...im def not gonna waste time on explaining why though.

video was awkward imo. especially when he said hes known to break your pipe if its dirty? wtf is that shit man lol. was just a jackass thing to say, and you can tell he was making it up to sound cool. if he smashed my pipe, id smash his face.

instant loss of credibility after that 1 hahaha

guy just needs to take a few public seeking class's on how to speek before a public audience. was uncomfortable watching him try in get a 2 sec point across over the first 3 min's during his video. "lets just getting it over with" is what he kept saying. i said the same regarding the video when he said im suppose to just smoke and not understand, leave it all up to him etc. LOL then "lets just getting it over with" haha.

ill always smoke outta my glass on glass and im no idiot. guy needs to learn what ethos logos n pathos means. the real way to persuade....

-mini

glass dust in my lungs gets my higher brah, that's why i smoke only menthol's and gong's. slices my lungs up so i can get that nicotine and thc in my bloodstream quicker.

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i love how hes like "Glass dust, everytime you pull the slide out it its everywhere!"
Glass doesnt break down into glass dust or anything....if you wash it once when you buy its your fine....

Dude the dust on the piece of tape and on the slide is from that one condom he has next to his bedside that he holds every night praying for a woman to come;-)

idk hes obviously lieing....i made a comment on youtube about it so people know its all BS..

dude, watching that guy just makes me nothing but mad.... immah smoke outta my stupid
roor now. with stupid holes in them and shit now. gawd. :p

yeah buddy.. anyone else down to spend $680 on the amazing posidon?

"POSEIDON IS THE PIECE WHEN YOU ARE MATURE ENOUGH TO KNOW QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE USE ARE THE SAME THING. IF YOU UNDERSTAND THINGS LIKE FLOW RATE, STATIC PRESSURE AND WHAT CLEANABLE MEANS TO FUNCTIONABILITY"

hahahahahahaha god this guy is a joke and his prices are even more of a joke

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wow. that dude is fucking retarded...im def not gonna waste time on explaining why though.

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seriously, 20 grand is a nice sum of money, but would any respectable glassblower even want to waste their time on someone so hopeless?

i think not, my friend

i would love to put my circs up against his cheap ass plastic balls. but my circs cant be produced and packaged for 5 cents. I love it when people use fear tactics to sell their crap or to get you to believe in their misinformation, what a douche nugget. makes me want to take a trip to hermosa beach and see if this guy is this much of a jackass in person.

I dunno guys, dont be blinded by hate. He did say some funny stuff like "Wannabe MIT guys" and there is a lot of that in the GonG community.

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I dunno guys, dont be blinded by hate. He did say some funny stuff like "Wannabe MIT guys" and there is a lot of that in the GonG community.

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I go to a science and technology universitiy so I'm not really a "wannabe.":pipe:

Wack ass dude just trying to push his 3rd rate glass.

that bet was dumb, of course it's gunna be cheaper. don't we all pay for quality when it comes to functional glass art? this shit ain't Walmart!!!!

lol even my cat didnt like this guy

"Sometimes you want some good chug" is like saying sometimes you want a good enema imho. The point of diffusion is to make more smaller bubbles, not chug. his sweet diffusion balls give you a smoother hit that will get you more girls with your jack the ripper rubber grommet. sweeeet bro.

who the fuck ever even heard of a "Good stash" bong. Im willing to bet him 20k that the blowers he has making his prodo line. Daily milk outta a Roor or something of that nature. with a gong joint.

I just think its dumb he goes and bashes GONG to get good stash's name out there.

this guy is a knob-shine, and his roose is despicable...


he just makes off the wall claims to get attention for his 3rd rate garbage.

If anyone was questioning this guys credibility....This will make your decision much easier. LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A42RMssOvMI

-Killa