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    what is terraponics, Supernatural brand's grow bags and stuff? They were the ones using that term a lot. But you are not hand watering pots full of soils are you? I was generalizing in a way.

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    Depends how you look at it. Just because a particual nutrient isn't 100% natural, doesn't really tell us shit. What are your thoughts on distilled water? Would you drink it? It's still just water....but the distillation process is by no means natural. Yet it's still very pure water, even more so that natural spring water. I think a lot of people forget what hydroponics really is....it's simply a delivery system, nothing more. And a lot of nutes are naturally derived, it's not as if they're all man made chemicals. The only thing man has done is simply put the nutes in a form that is readily available. A lot of organic supplements and such are pure bullshit, especially when used indoors. Most plants don't spend a lot of time growing when they spend their life span indoors, as opposed to the longer times of most outdoor operations. So a lot of the things "organic" growers add to their soil doesn't even spend enough time in the soil under proper conditions to even become usable by the plant. Find someone who's been growing for a long time, preferably someone with organic and hydro experience. Bet they'll tell you it's all in how it's grown, handled, dried, and cured. I love all the people who walk around honestly thinking they can tell the difference between organic and hydro just by smoking. I think it's almost kinda cute, haha. My two cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullethead21 View Post
    Im actaully looking to venture into this and see what its all about first hand. Ill tell you all the outcome in a few months...

    Any recomendations for some small starter kits? Ive seen a few online that look ok for about 180 bucks.....
    please make your own! so much cheaper look on grasscity.com

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    And not only cheaper, more tailored for what YOU need. Plus you'll learn a lil more by building your own system, kinda makes you appreciate the whole process a lil more too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyballbag View Post
    And not only cheaper, more tailored for what YOU need. Plus you'll learn a lil more by building your own system, kinda makes you appreciate the whole process a lil more too.
    yes...........

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    I built 2 system as kinda of a test. I Built a 18 gallon verion and a 10 gallon version.

    Its just like the BUbbleponics systems but I dont have a submerst pump pumping the oxy filled water to the net pots. I could find the pumps ok, but I couldnt find anything that would allow me to split off into either 2, 4, or 6, ways to attach the tubes that go from the pump in the tank to each net pot to feed the root zone directly. This is much beter to me because you dont have to fill the tank all the way up and use much less water and nuts.

    I will prolly sell the 18 gallon system as its to big for me. It would be great for growing 2 to 4 monster big plants. I used 4 inch net pots. The 10 gallon is more my speed as we will prolly grow very small to medium size plants of different kinds ranging all the way to tomatoes!

    Let me know if anyone is interested. Its a complete system minus lights & medium for the net pots (rock wool cubes, hydroton).

    So i have to fill the tank (18 Gallon Tank) all the way to the top with water and nuts so as the net pots are completly under water (up to the lid of of the net pot of course) when I put the lid on.

    It seems to be working ok. I gotta get better nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullethead21 View Post
    I built 2 system as kinda of a test. I Built a 18 gallon verion and a 10 gallon version.

    Its just like the BUbbleponics systems but I dont have a submerst pump pumping the oxy filled water to the net pots. I could find the pumps ok, but I couldnt find anything that would allow me to split off into either 2, 4, or 6, ways to attach the tubes that go from the pump in the tank to each net pot to feed the root zone directly. This is much beter to me because you dont have to fill the tank all the way up and use much less water and nuts.

    I will prolly sell the 18 gallon system as its to big for me. It would be great for growing 2 to 4 monster big plants. I used 4 inch net pots. The 10 gallon is more my speed as we will prolly grow very small to medium size plants of different kinds ranging all the way to tomatoes!

    Let me know if anyone is interested. Its a complete system minus lights & medium for the net pots (rock wool cubes, hydroton).

    So i have to fill the tank (18 Gallon Tank) all the way to the top with water and nuts so as the net pots are completly under water (up to the lid of of the net pot of course) when I put the lid on.

    It seems to be working ok. I gotta get better nuts.
    what kinda lights did u use thru out?

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    some terraponic (?) herb, handwatered with the highest quality nutes in promix. Is that what people mean when they say terraponic? Anyways. . . Chemdog flushed for 20 days, pictured @ 61 days. Extreme RO water flush leaves nothing but piney chemmy funk.

    And super silver haze, 56 daze.
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    NIce buds LostCoaster!! Looking good mang! I bet it taste even better......


    Quote Originally Posted by Hennessy1414 View Post
    what kinda lights did u use thru out?
    Usually use a 400w HPS/MH system. The ballist will support either a MH or HPS bulb. I usually use a HPS bulb only.

    Ive read that growth speeds are off the charts when using a HID system with these type "Bubblers".......

    But I also read that the dual spectrum light kits that sell for less than 100 bucks work extremly well with this type system also. They have 2 lights in this type system, one for growing and one for flowering.

    The magic seems to be in the way the oxygen filled water/nuts is delivered directly to the root zone of the plant 24/7. The lighting system is important...but you can get by with much less expensive light set ups with these Bubbleponic type systems IMHO......
    Last edited by Bullethead21; 10-29-2008 at 06:50 AM.

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    "The lighting system is important...but you can get by with much less expensive light set ups with these Bubbleponic type systems IMHO....." Keep in mind photosynthesis. It'd be counter productive to have a high performance hydro system with mediocre lighting. Kinda like having a ferrari and putting 87 octane in it. Give your plants the very best nutrients available, put it under a crappy light, and watch your crappy growth rates. Another thing to remember, in the BEST of conditions indoors, you're only going to achieve maybe 1/4 of the intensity of the sun. Don't skimp on lighting and tell yourself you'll make it up with a hydro system. Your garden is only as productive as the weakest link in your garden.

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