I can't imagine any valid reason for leaving with tools and other trade secret property that belong to the man that took you in and taught you most of what you know. But it would be nice to hear a reason.
Clear Heads
I can't imagine any valid reason for leaving with tools and other trade secret property that belong to the man that took you in and taught you most of what you know. But it would be nice to hear a reason.
Full Melt Clear Domeness
absolutely eebrew...
just waiting to hear from him
Bubbleman
ps... and the whole court reference.... not super good metaphor.. court is definitly NOT justice... its court... if ya pay the most.. you win...
my two cents again
Amber Heads
...and in court the defendant is given a scheduled time to show up, the prosecutor doesn't just post up on a cannabis forum. it's been stated that joe doesn't have computer access right now. horrible analogy.Originally Posted by Back Stabbath
my question: if JP actually believes things were stolen, why isn't he going through lawyers? seems like that would be more effective at solving his problem than stirring up a bunch of rumors.
Last edited by TheNew; 09-15-2009 at 06:52 PM.
Cloudy Heads
isnt there a patentt for all jp work and ideas or somthing in the lines of that just wondering ?
but from everything i have heard and read about joey should really start saying somthing real soon before everyone thinks and doesnt hear his side of the story which we all should including jp himself im not backing anyone up on this just like eebrew said i just wanna hear the full story and would like to just really throw ITZA under the table for this shit which look who really steals people ideas come on besides people that dont know how to come up with there own things sad yes but life yes also
Amber Heads
Not at all. Not for tube design at least.
Amber Heads
I have a feeling this is going to be the the Israel/Palestine conflict of the glass world. Not in detail...
...but because it will never be resolved.
Subtle is the Lord, Malicious He is not.
120u hash
Still seems sketchy too me... With Joe just dip setting on homie JP like that when as stated I felt like JP said they were boys.. Or no, he even went as far as too say a part of his family. If you don't mind me asking, What was up with all the shady bussiness of joe's departure then? The way JP described it was very shady with Joe staying out of reach and contact.
Just my thoughts and ideas and wonderings.. I did not mean to harm, or offend anyone else's opionions thoughts or ideas in this whole fiasco. Good luck too JP on getting things straightend out. And good looking out Dread on finally getting some spoken word from Joey.
Those that rushes my cluthes get put on crutches. Get smoked like dutches from the master, Hate to blast ya, but I have ta, you see I smoke a lot. - The Illest
120u hash
JP should have realized he is in business. The point of that is to make money. I understand he probably likes doing for the art and yada yada yada but he stated that Joe was about to sign a no compete agreement before he left. Common sense would be to have him sign it before he knows all your trade mark secrets. We all know this world is full of people that will do anything for an edge. This whole situation could have been avoided imo. Joe said JP wasnt treating him right so maybe karma's a bitch. We will never know the whole story so it's dumb to act like we do (Chi-Town).
As of now if anyone has any Itza tubes they want to sell for cheap since Itza is no comparable to china glass, please pm me.
Amber Heads
Anyone else notice all this "joey isnt posting anything up" HE NEVER POSTED ANYTHING ONLINE... EVER shit give the man a break, maybe he doesnt like/use/live-off the internet. Im glad to hear that he didn't steal anything, that really didnt sit well with me but everything else sounds like a employer-employee issue that SHOULDNT be aired to the fucking world. If what joey says is true and nothing was ever stolen I am disgusted that this ever came up. What a way to tarnish someones name. I am SURE Jp is an awesome teacher, other toros and itzas just wouldnt be so good, BUT maybe he was a poor employer unfair pay/workload etc. so before you go impaling yourself on someones cock screaming their name and that they dont do no wrong, FACT CHECK!!!!!!!!!! At this point in time I don't know who to believe, but the fact that this is a public denouncement really makes me worried. so wak I hope to god something got stolen, otherwise Im calling this libel and defamation and thats some BullSHIT. If something is stolen lets call it theft, and put a thief behind bars, Im sure he ti signed his rigs, lathes whatever was stolen. all I seek is the truth not some one-sided post that everyone goes screaming off and you-tubing about. I also think that joey/toro should talk and work it out like men, theirs MORE then enough business for both of you, so if no theft actually happend, maybe you can all just get along?
Cloudy Heads
Chi_Town I am not sure why you care so much or why you hopped on the band wagon so fast but I think you need to calm the fuck down and take a toke before you start hacking at your keyboard like a moron. You have done nothing but fuel this negatively and point fingers when you have'nt heard both sides of the story, and who the hell values the opinion of a BHO fan on these forums anyways.
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