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    Seriously, it's not that big of a deal (on the broad spectrum).

    A more sound argument is that it is simply 100% organic.
    Many people are into keeping away from artificial agents, and people devoted to bubble are part of that.

    Now please, close this thread.

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    This is proof of the contaminants in BUTANE, not BHO. My quote was taken out of context in that my point was that NO ONE HAS EVER SCIENTIFICALLY ANALYZED A PIECE OF BHO OR BHO SMOKE. You can read about what exists in butane, and what exists in cannabis, and then you can speculate as to what molecules bond to what and what contaminants stay in the oil throughout the process. But you can not say "I have scientifically analyzed BHO and BHO SMOKE through ______ scientific process(es) and these are the substances that it is made up of." So there is not one person out there who can conclusively say that they know what substances exist in BHO.

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    Now i wasted my time reading the rest of this thread and instead of ignoring it and letting it die I will continue the horribly immature and unstructured debate!

    To put a few things to rest(hopefully)



    Summary of Hazards & Composition

    SUBSTANCE: Butane Percent: 60.00
    CAS#: 106-87-8 Synonyms: n-Butane, Tetrane

    SUBSTANCE: iso-Butane Percent: 29.00
    CAS#: 75-28-5 Synonyms: 2-Methylpropane, Trlmethylethane

    SUBSTANCE: Propane Percent: 11.00
    CAS#: 75-98-6 Synonyms: LPG, Dimethylmethane, Propylhydride

    This is for vector from the MSDS which by law must include all chemicals that make up a product.

    Now if we add 60+29+11=100.

    Not to sound like a dick but that does not leave any room for anything else, please put this down it needs no more discussion, sorry bubbleman and crew.

    Now i wholeheatedly agree about every other point made about why ice or dry sift is better.
    Actually this really didn't prove a thing except what Vector Butane is made up of. There is no follow-up information about the chemicals, just what chemicals are there. There is no info in here with regards to butane's interaction with cannabis and what happens chemically. Where is the proof? Which one of these chemicals is unable to evaporate? which one of these chemicals possess the property that makes it bond to the organics in cannabis oil? All I'm asking for is proof and people keep posting the same exerpt from MSDS. Im sure the MSDS hasn't tested the effects of butane on cannabis and vise versa in a labratory. But SOMEONE out there CAN and it will lay all this speculation to rest, even mine (because IM NOT SAYING THAT BHO HAS NO CONTAMINANTS IN IT, Im merely asking for proof that it does, maybe from an experiment conducted DIRECTLY ON A PIECE OF BHO.)
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    and why is this BHO thread still alive on the bubble forums? throw out the cans and buy some bags boys...or go to another forums IMO if you want to stand up for butane extraction so much, because this is NOT a tane friendly enviroment.

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    LOLOL

    wow, just wow

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    Haha Im just havin fun guys don't take anything I say seriously. haha

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    all I can say is that using water and ice is definitely the best way to go, i had not even heard that it is possible to make bubblehash using butane. it seems as though it would not be very safe...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigManNew View Post
    all I can say is that using water and ice is definitely the best way to go, i had not even heard that it is possible to make bubblehash using butane. it seems as though it would not be very safe...

    Bubblehash is the product of water/ice method. The term for solvent(butane) extracts is hash oil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hieronymus Bosch View Post
    Bubblehash is the product of water/ice method. The term for solvent(butane) extracts is hash oil.
    Bubblehash is the term for the product of ice/water extraction, but.... Its only hash oil if you make it from hash. People mistakenly call it that because of it's semi-solid form. (the H stands for honey, not hash) The term for solvent extracts is oil, period.

    Hash is unbroken trich heads (and some contaminant, plant matter ect)gathered by dry sifting, ice & water extraction, or even hand rub, untouched by chemical solvents.

    A nice crossover product that is sort of in the middle is rosin. If you rub some dryish hash on a hot pyrex plate, it leaves behind a bit of an oily residue (rosin) on the pyrex that can be scraped up and smoked in a similar manner to a solid oil, having used zero solvents. I haven't tried this myself yet, but its a technique I learned about from Hash_bean420. I think there may even be a post in these very forums on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukonBikerGuy View Post
    Bubblehash is the term for the product of ice/water extraction, but.... Its only hash oil if you make it from hash. People mistakenly call it that because of it's semi-solid form. (the H stands for honey, not hash) The term for solvent extracts is oil, period.

    Hash is unbroken trich heads (and some contaminant, plant matter ect)gathered by dry sifting, ice & water extraction, or even hand rub, untouched by chemical solvents.

    A nice crossover product that is sort of in the middle is rosin. If you rub some dryish hash on a hot pyrex plate, it leaves behind a bit of an oily residue (rosin) on the pyrex that can be scraped up and smoked in a similar manner to a solid oil, having used zero solvents. I haven't tried this myself yet, but its a technique I learned about from Hash_bean420. I think there may even be a post in these very forums on it.

    Thanks for the clarification.
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    If anyone has a Mass spectrometer, I will gladly exhale b.h.o. smoke into it. In the name of science, of course.

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