Answer from TORO to all your crazy rumors!!!!!

[jafolker]

Did I ever say he was a thief? Im assuming that you would want a product that defines you and brings you above other companies. And yes ideas are definitely copied but that doesn't mean all tubes look the same. I can tell a SG apart from a Toro apart from a Illa anyday but if I didn't see the different slits on the trees Itza looks identical to Toro. Im just guessing if you say you're disgusted with someone you wouldn't want to be making tubes that look identical to theirs. Just my 2 cents

[toalex]

Did I ever say he was a thief? Im assuming that you would want a product that defines you and brings you above other companies. And yes ideas are definitely copied but that doesn't mean all tubes look the same. I can tell a SG apart from a Toro apart from a Illa anyday but if I didn't see the different slits on the trees Itza looks identical to Toro. Im just guessing if you say you're disgusted with someone you wouldn't want to be making tubes that look identical to theirs. Just my 2 cents

Yup, you can tell a illa apart from a sov, a sov from a toro and so on but itzas look identical besides the janky looking slits. (also all the hate towards toro is ridiculous on the glassdistrict forums holy shit @____@)

[jafolker]

Haha well you know when the mods have a bone to pick with a company its diffuses down to many of the users. Happened with Ninja and illa along with a few other companies nothing new to Forums but it is ridiculous the things some people will say on GD

[EEbrew]

. (also all the hate towards toro is ridiculous on the glassdistrict forums holy shit @____@)

escuse me? Sorry on that forum your free to voice your mind and not limited to " aw sick piece brah" or " bro you totally killed it" like on some other forums.

[EEbrew]

Haha well you know when the mods have a bone to pick with a company its diffuses down to many of the users. Happened with Ninja and illa along with a few other companies nothing new to Forums but it is ridiculous the things some people will say on GD

Bro why don't you just go back to TC? my opinions with toro have nothing to do with other people's opinion.

[mikeys]

This isn't directed to anyone inparticular..

I don't understand all the hate towards Toro...you hate them because them are doing good? They make excellent tubes, and provide second to none customer service. If you don't like Toro don't buy them, but there is no need for conflict for those who do.

Same goes for all glass companies imo. If you don't like it, don't buy it, don't compliment it. But why are you going to actively shit on someone else's hard work?

I know I don't post much, but the amount of hatred in this thread and another one active at the same time regarding Toro is just insane to me.

Everybody, smoke some hash and chill out.

[toalex]

escuse me? Sorry on that forum your free to voice your mind and not limited to " aw sick piece brah" or " bro you totally killed it" like on some other forums.

Pretty sure you are able to voice your opinion on all the other forums (that's the point of a forum) as well; it seems that gd just hates on toro because of what they said about itza (and it seems that gd=huge itza fanboys).

[imx]

And this is exactly why ill never buy another TORO again. go ahead flame me, idc, this whole thread is so wack, do you guys notice that TORO only ever speaks on forums like this when they wana bash someone (itza) or clear rumors against themselves up.. And dont say, oh theyre busy during the day they dont have time to come on the internet.. it takes 5 minutes to read the forums and see whats up, hell take your laptop with you when you take a shit, do some multi tasking.. TORO doesnt give a shit about you lol. so that whole TORO is all about the customer, yea thats bullshit, theres artists that are actually online every day talking to the people and what not.. do you see TORO doing that around anywhere? nope.. and that whole TORO hate on GD is bullshit, you have no idea what youre talkin about. theres a god damn TORO appreciation thread, but GD hates TORO, b b b b bullshit, at least half the members on that site own at least one piece of TORO. and GD is not an ITZA fanboy site, if anything SG is the most popular tubes on the site, so again another person who knows NOTHING. the amount of incompetence in some people when it comes to glass is amazing. and half you bashing ITZA dont even know a fucking thing about the company or anything they do so shut your stupid fucking mouth. AND on top of that, you really dont even know that much about the glass game.. so just stop forcing your shitty wrong opinions on everyone.. And you people have to be joking, your all like OMG THE ITZA LOOKS JUST LIKE THE TORO WTF!?!?!? dude Joe was JPS fucking apprentice, obviously his style is going to be a little like JPs.. thats common sense.. pull your heads out of your fucking asses please. Ive said it 100 times before Ill say it again, TOROs glass is nice ya we know that, but dude, their quality control is pretty shabby sometimes, and other shit too. NOBODY would be saying any of the shit they do about ITZA if stupid TORO didnt come to and make that bullshit letter full of lies and crap, you guys would all be like awww man ITZA is siiiick. so thats really sad too, form you own opinion not someone elses. And everyone calling ITZA janky, you have NO IDEA what you are talking about, typical idiot on a glass forum tryin to talk like they know their shit but they really dont.. which is a lot of you btw. and Btw the new TOROs are hideous. seriously, when is TORO gona make something that isnt fuck ugly? riddle me that? those mini beakers were ugly as hell, the new JP perc things and the inline to the side or whatever that is is ugly too. and BTW, TORO, get over yourself and your whole vendetta with 521 because he gave you a bad review on the 6in1 tube, that tube sucked, it really did.. another new tube from TORO that was a complete bust.. SG completely out innovates TORO buy a long shot now..look at the list of SG tubes.. gridlines, gridcaps, inv4s, fixed4s, 4to8s, so many more i mean comeon.. what does toro have the 7arm, 13arm, 16arm, and the circ (they stopped making the inline for whatever stupid reason).. i mean seriously think of something new and cool, please.. and I would never rag on an artist for making a bad product but TORO didnt show that respect to ITZA now did they.. (ITZA fake was the lame lil joke I think they made) so theyre also being hypocritical.. i mean come on guys, half you people saying all this shit about ITZA dont even know half the story.. i guess the moral of my post is, get your info up before you start talkin shit, you dono what your talkin about. and all the toro fan boys can go ahead, flame me if you want, think im an asshole idc, this is the internet, idc what people think lol.. i know what im talkin about. you dont. so I guess i will go back to GD now (with the "ITZA fanboys" which are really just people who actually know what theyre talking about not a bunch of blabbing meat riders), I wont be replying to any of your posts on this matter, because most of you dont know what youre talking about, so im not wasting my time. take care!

BTW, the only piece of TORO I own now is an ice pinch slide, not getting rid of that lol. probably the best functioning piece in TOROs line up.

[Five To One]

Pretty sure you are able to voice your opinion on all the other forums (that's the point of a forum) as well; it seems that gd just hates on toro because of what they said about itza (and it seems that gd=huge itza fanboys).

Negative comments are not allowed in "appreciation threads" go ahead and try it.

And the fact that you are labeling GD members as fan boys is a complete joke. People go their because they like freedom of speach, and the majority of the people posting negative criticism on GD, don't even own an Itza tube, including myself....

So try to find out whats really up before blabing random bullshit.

and IMX, she isn't pissed about the 6 to 1, she is pissed because she called me and asked me to remove itza from GD, because of her personal BS.

[domm11]

I dont even know any women who argue and bitch as much as some of the people on these fourms do